BURBANK, Calif. – About once a month, two friends, one Republican, and one Democrat, get together to share a meal and do something two people from opposite sides of the political spectrum rarely do: talk.

“I learned how to keep my mouth shut and I learned how to sit and just listen to people bash and I sort of have to take it,” said Roger Neal, a celebrity publicist.

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Being a conservative in ultra-liberal Hollywood has never been easy, according to Neal. But in the years since Donald Trump became president, Neal says he has had to steer clear of any political talk.

“I can’t talk to my family, I can’t talk to my mother-in-law, I can't talk to my brother and sister-in-laws about politics because it just gets way out of control,” Neal said.

There is one person he can totally be himself with and it is the last person he ever expected to befriend. His friend, Adam Epstein, is a former Broadway producer and a liberal TV commentator.

“I find Roger to have a deep well of humanity and I find him to be a really great guy,” Epstein said.

Epstein has become one of Neal’s closest confidants, despite the fact that he is a self-described Trump supporter.

The feeling seems to be mutual.

“I feel I’m able to understand people on the left more and he’s able to understand people on the right more,” Neal said.

For the last couple of years they have been meeting for food and politics. On a warm afternoon in late October, they met at Chili John’s on Burbank Boulevard. On the menu is a hot bowl of chili with a side of impeachment talk.

The two say they couldn’t be more different. Neal believes the Russia scandal is a “hoax,” while Epstein believes the impeachment proceedings against the president are warranted. But what they do share is a willingness to listen and to keep an open mind.

“When you get into a conversation and you start to discuss things, you peel away the layers of simplicity,” Epstein said. “It gets human, it gets real, it gets complex and you go, ‘Oh that makes sense.’”

These meetings serve as comfort food for Neal, who had second thoughts about participating in this interview over fears of losing clients or even friends.

“He’s the only person on the planet I can talk to about politics,” Neal said of Epstein.

They might be political foes, but this close friendship feeds both their souls.

“I don’t think we’re the norm which is sad,” Epstein said. “We should be the norm.”